Tim Jackson in conversation with Philip McKenzie
July 2025
In this episode of The Deep Dive, host Phillip McKenzie speaks with Tim Jackson about his latest book, The Care Economy. Their conversation explores the centrality of care as a foundational principle for both human life and societal wellbeing. The discussion examines how the pandemic and recent global conflicts have underscored care’s critical importance, yet revealed its consistent neglect within current economic systems focused primarily on growth and profit.
The episode further addresses how contemporary capitalism systematically marginalises care, contributing to widespread social, health, and environmental crises. Highlighting the gendered dimensions of care and its opposition to violence, the dialogue reframes prosperity away from wealth accumulation and towards balanced, holistic wellbeing. Ultimately, the conversation advocates for restructuring our societies and economies around care, prioritising collective health, meaningful connections, and ecological stability as genuine measures of prosperity.
The podcast is hosted by Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. For more episodes from this podcast series, please see https://www.thedeepdivepod.com; or find it on the usual platforms, such as Spotify or Apple Podcasts.
This post also appeared on the CUSP website.
